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Lately a law was passed in France due to raise the pension age from 62 to 64. This was met with protests.

There are currently such ongoing debates in the UK too.

What do you think the pension age should be? I think it should be raised - encouraging elder people into work can help eliminate shortages. However exceptions should be made for ill-health.

I appreciate that others may have alternative views as they may want to enjoy life. What are your thoughts on the pension age? My vote is age 60 unless you have a condition that prevents or hinders your ability to work.
 
Here in the states, americans born in 1960 or later must wait until they turn 67 to collect their full benefits.

However, unless Congress acts, neither Social Security nor Medicare will be able to provide their full benefits within the next decade or so.

Here’s what you need to know about retirement ages in the US​

Age 62: Americans can file for Social Security benefits as early as age 62. But that will result in a lifetime reduction in payments.

For instance, those whose full retirement age is 67 will receive only 70% of the benefit if they claim at age 62.

If the full retirement age is increased, it could mean an even larger cut in benefits, depending on how the legislation is written.

Congress gave women the ability to collect a reduced benefit at age 62 in 1956 and extended the option to men in 1961.

Fewer people are filing for early retirement benefits. Some 25% elected to do so in 2021, down from 52% in 2005, according to an American Academy of Actuaries review of Social Security Administration data.

Age 65: This is when one can enroll in Medicare coverage. Most people sign up for both Part A, which covers hospitalizations, skilled nursing facility care, hospice care and some home health care, and Part B, which covers doctors’ visits, outpatient care, medical supplies and preventive services.

The initial enrollment period begins three months before one turns 65 and ends three months after one’s birthday month. Those who wait to sign up can face hurdles, including having to pay a penalty or suffering from a gap in coverage.

Age 65 was also the average age of people electing Social Security benefits in 2021 – 65.1, to be precise, according to the academy.

Age 67: Americans born in 1960 or later must wait until age 67 to be eligible for their full Social Security benefits.

This age is typically the target of reforms, with some options raising it to age 70 for future retirees. Doing so could wipe out about a third of the Social Security trust fund’s 75-year deficit, according to Munnell.

Raising the full retirement age would bring it more in line with changes in life expectancy, which has increased by about six years since Social Security was established in 1935, said Linda Stone, senior pension fellow at the academy.

Age 70: Those who delay their retirement until age 70 will receive a larger monthly Social Security benefit, thanks to a credit Congress created in 1972.

For instance, workers born in 1960 can receive 124% of their benefit if they don’t sign up until they turn 70.

However, waiting beyond that age will not further increase their monthly payments, so the Social Security Administration recommends folks apply when they hit 70, even if they are still working.

Few people delay collecting their Social Security benefits, though the share is growing. Some 21% elected to take benefits after their full retirement age in 2021, up from 5% in 2005, according to the academy.
 
Here in the states, americans born in 1960 or later must wait until they turn 67 to collect their full benefits.

However, unless Congress acts, neither Social Security nor Medicare will be able to provide their full benefits within the next decade or so.


Thanks for sharing! What are your thoughts on this pension age? Do you think it should be changed?
 
Thanks for sharing! What are your thoughts on this pension age? Do you think it should be changed?
I think it is fine. I know a lot of older people that are working over 67. I don't think they want to stay home and do nothing.
 
I think it is fine. I know a lot of older people that are working over 67. I don't think they want to stay home and do nothing.
Woah, I don't know anyone in their 70s who's still working.
Too many employers are unfortunately unwilling to hire older people for roles, what do you reckon could be done to counter such age discrimination ? The government need an incentive to encourage employers to hire older employees.
 
The government need an incentive to encourage employers to hire older employees.
I agree with this. I see older people bagging food in the mornings. They work 3 or 4 hours and that is it. Getting out of the house for a short time is all they want.
 
I agree with this. I see older people bagging food in the mornings. They work 3 or 4 hours and that is it. Getting out of the house for a short time is all they want.
I don't know anyone who works 3/4 hours per day. I see people working part time though. But I'm based in the UK. Is it a similar thing in the USA?
 
I don't know anyone who works 3/4 hours per day. I see people working part time though. But I'm based in the UK. Is it a similar thing in the USA?
Yeah, part time can be 3 hours in a day. Under 32 hours a week.
 
If you live in a better economy, the government will be able to pay for pensions but in small economies, it will be a financial burden. Instead of paying for pensions, a better approach is to use that money to hire more people so that the unemployment rate decreases. Because of advancements in medicine, people are living longer, so there shouldn't be a problem when they are supposed to work until 62 or even 65.
 
If you live in a better economy, the government will be able to pay for pensions but in small economies, it will be a financial burden. Instead of paying for pensions, a better approach is to use that money to hire more people so that the unemployment rate decreases. Because of advancements in medicine, people are living longer, so there shouldn't be a problem when they are supposed to work until 62 or even 65.
Oh yes! And that way, the government can also collect more taxes, enabling better public spending with less borrowing :cool:
 
People in better economies can pay taxes because the per capita income is high. In small and poor economies, per capita income is small and they can hardly pay taxes.
I mean raising the pension age would encourage older ppl to keep working. This means more taxes are collected.

I disagree that everyone pays taxes in better economies. There's always a mixture of low and high earners. And every country has different tax laws. Regardless, we are going off topic on that ;)
 
Woah, I don't know anyone in their 70s who's still working.
Too many employers are unfortunately unwilling to hire older people for roles, what do you reckon could be done to counter such age discrimination ? The government need an incentive to encourage employers to hire older employees.
I think we are not supposed to forget something called life expectancy. For Instance most countries have it at early 60's. This can also affect the employment age according to me.
 
I think we are not supposed to forget something called life expectancy. For Instance most countries have it at early 60's. This can also affect the employment age according to me.
Due to medical advances, at least in the UK, we have an aging population. Where are you based? :)

I was under the impression you are also from the UK but I believe I am wrong, heh :cool:
 
I mean raising the pension age would encourage older ppl to keep working. This means more taxes are collected.

I disagree that everyone pays taxes in better economies. There's always a mixture of low and high earners. And every country has different tax laws. Regardless, we are going off topic on that ;)
When people retire at 60, the government will have to start giving money even though these pensioners no longer work. However, if the age is increased, people will continue to work and the government will not only save money on pension schemes but also continue to collect taxes from the employees.
 
When people retire at 60, the government will have to start giving money even though these pensioners no longer work. However, if the age is increased, people will continue to work and the government will not only save money on pension schemes but also continue to collect taxes from the employees.
I don't know about Nepal, but here, you and your employer must pay a percentage of your earnings into your workplace pension scheme.
Not the government
 
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